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TOPIC: 1847 Patriotic Revolt and Hispanic Nationalism

Subject: 1847 Patriotic Revolt and Hispanic Nationalism
Posted: February 27, 2008 2:31 PM MST
Comments: Dear Friends FRON nEW mEXICO I am looking for people with knowledge about New Mexico history, in particular about the Patriotic Revolt of 1847, the development of the Mexican War in New Mexico and the social struggles and resistance that followed, as well as modern topics about New Mexico from a Nationalist point of view. We are an organization that leads a peaceful struggle in order to rescue our history and support Nationalist causes in Mexico and the Southern United States. We are not "Chicanos" and we have no relationship with any political group or party in the United States or Mexico. This is a good opportunity for young historians and journalists to make themselves known through publications and our website. Thanks for your kind support Juan Lopez Lee National Will Organization info@voluntad.org.mx
Posted By: Juan Lopez Lee

Subject: resistance better term
Posted: September 5, 2008 1:23 PM MDT
Comments: the 1847-1848 resistance in New Mexico is important and intentionally misrepresented, with most of the documentry evidence destroyed (both inadvertantly and intentionally-- any most is gone). resistance is a much better term to use, since patriotism as currently used seems to mean alliegance to a nation state, and most of the activity was more social banditry though manuel cortez was commissioned by angle trias and all the participants in the resistance THAT WERENT HANGED (Diego Archuleta, Cortez himself) were declared to have been legimate combatants under no civil penalties at the end of the MAW.
Posted By: tim kimball

Subject: 1847 Revolt
Posted: December 20, 2008 9:39 AM MST
Comments: A fascinating event which is not given enough academic study. It is also presented in an ethno-centric way. It was a resistance to American imperialism, pure and simple. Americans like to gloss over the imperialistic side of their history whether it be the Mexican War, the War Between the States, the Spanish-American war or the war against Filipino resistance in the early part of the 20th century. What is interesting is that these men in NM were hanged for treason, of all things! They were in reality Ne Mexican patriots.
Posted By: Samuel Dominguez

Subject: Revolt
Posted: December 22, 2008 7:57 PM MST
Comments: Samuel Dominguez has it right, we ought to petition our politicians for a suitable memorial. Las Vegas would be an appropriate place, Maybe Taos or Mora.
Posted By: Preciliano Martin

Subject: patriotic, in part
Posted: January 23, 2009 7:35 PM MST
Comments: there were many reasons that people participated in the resistance-- opposition to the \"american\" party of taos-- bent, beaubien, los vigiles, lee, jaramillo. they had made claims to lands using fraud and collusion. now they were the \"terrorial officials.\" along with killing the \"beloved\" charles bent (NOT a pleasant man), the insurgentes destroyed all the records of land holdings and court proceedings for the last ten years (as they had destroyed them in 1837). With one or two exceptions, all the Taos dead were title holders in recent fraudulent claims-- and beaubien would have been killed if he were present. Lee\'s horrible jingoist brother was spared, Charles Town was allowed to proceed to Santa Fe and bring the American Army. Mostly the resistance was trying to protect the \"patria chica,\" and really involved neither the \"American\" party (in large part hispanic) or the wealthier hispanic opposition-- El Cura Martinez. As far as evaluation Mexican national patriotism goes, one example of it not being a factor is the absense of any known families requesting repatriation under the treaty of Guadalupe Hildalgo; another is that the the revolt of 1837 was specifically AGAINST the centrist regime of Mexico, back in the saddle in 1847.
Posted By: tim kimball

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